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Author:  largie [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:52 pm ]
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never seen this before,sorry if its old news

Author:  moderoy [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:27 pm ]
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Largie, as far as I know, this is not old news at all. In fact, that's quite an incredible bit of video. Not only is it the earliest footage of Genesis (I think) in existence, but it's pro-shot, and probably the best quality footage of Gabriel-era Genesis live I've ever see. And this is before even Phil and Steve. Amazing!

I had no idea this was available. The big question much more is there? Thanks for your post.

Author:  babylon5 [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:29 am ]
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Holy moley! 11 March 1970. Gabriel, Banks, Rutherford, Phillips, and Mayhew.

At 1:15 I thought, is Mike smoking a cigarette? But I think it's a pick in his mouth. We only get the back of Ant's head at 1:10 and his hands at 1:53, but we get a close-up of Mayhew's face at 1:29.

Here's what the Waiting Room says about this date:

    The Roundhouse London 11/3/70. This is the Atomic Sunrise Festival gig which was filmed both privately and professionally as well as being 8-track sound recorded as well. Genesis were first on the bill opening for both Hawkwind and a pre-Glam David Bowie. Despite rumours to the contrary, yours truly does NOT, I repeat NOT possess a copy of this film. Nor indeed do the band. The private footage is - or was - owned by a guy called Adrian Everett who tried to sell it to Hit & Run Music several years ago for an extortionate amount of money allegedly. The whereabouts of the pro-shot film and soundtrack are as yet unknown. An intriguing two minute audio segment of Stagnation which may be from this gig was found on a tape in Anthony Phillips' tape archive several years ago but a definitive provenance for it is currently unavailable as the tape was not labelled properly.

And Paul Russell's book says:

    Genesis played a short set that was filmed in black and white. This film still exists and was even offered to the group for a large amount of money. The footage is silent but the soundtrack must still be in the hands of the makers..... The snippet is over just as you try to pick out Phillips and Mayhew.

The film that Russell saw had no sound. The only audio recording he had of this concert was a snippet of "Twilight Alehouse", which he described as follows: Gabriel's voice certainly sounds very young and some of the lyrics are slightly different to later versions.

In Russell's interview with Tony, Mike, and Ant, Mike refers to the guy who tried to sell the film "for a fortune". And then Ant confirms that the film was silent:

    "There was no sound on the film. It's the only visual proof that I was ever in the group actually. (laughs) (pp. 199-200).

Since this video is in color, with sound, I wonder if the YouTube poster is the same guy who tried to sell the silent B&W version to the band? As far as the "young voice" and "different lyrics", this was less than three weeks after the first BBC session, so I would expect that "Looking for Someone" would have the same lyrics as the BBC version. Also, this is now the earliest version of the Knife in existence (the earliest in Russell's book is 10 April 1970).

After more examination: I think the sound is dubbed. I just played this back-to-back with the first 27 seconds of "Looking for Someone" from the first BBC session, and they appear to be identical. Can someone with good audio equipment confirm this? Peter's lips are almost perfectly in sync with the first few lines but then get a bit out of sync. In "The Knife" they are even less in sync.

Which makes me wonder if the film could have been colorized as well.

In any event, even if the color and sound are fake, the film is awesome to see! I just saved it as an .flv file lest someone delete it from YouTube!

Author:  davidraphael [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:22 am ]
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The sound is definitely dubbed; the lip sync doesn't work for the most part. From what I gather, as you have said, the audio is from the BBC session.
It's hard to tell if the film has been coloured from such a small, highly compressed sample. To me it seems genuine, but I could be wrong.
The titles also suggest that it comes from a VHS copy, but again I could be wrong.

Author:  ikhnaton [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:53 pm ]
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I don't think that the film was coloured.
Coloured films always looks like sh***.

If I remember well, this is not the earliest footage of Genesis, there is a promo film of the silent sun from the late sixties.

Author:  babylon5 [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:21 pm ]
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Was the Bowie portion of this film already released publicly?

Compare this older film of Bowie's set with the newly released film. The main camera is clearly the same, but when it cuts to other angles they are completely different.

Author:  ikhnaton [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:10 am ]
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The older one looks like an assembly work using snippets of the show. (There is even mirror effect)

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